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2 Elements Quad

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My Quad Project
A 2 Element Cubical Quad for the 10/11 Meter Band
by N1UUE


I am a firm believer in the phrase, " Why reinvent the wheel?".
This antenna is a plumbers dream. Most parts are available on the World Wide Web or at some larger hardware stores. This two-element Cubical Quad antenna is designed for use on either the 10-meter ham band or the 11-meter Citizen's Band.

When all was said and done, my SWR readings were 1.3 to 1.7 on the 10-meter band. At one point during the tuning phase, I had a reading of 1 to 1 at about 29.5 MHz. I tried to stay with an age-old design but also used commercially available parts. This kept the weight factor manageable for a 10 or 11-meter size quad. My PVC version sports vertical polarity plus an easy to change coaxial feed to the driven element.

The thing turned out quite well cosmetically and I was very pleased with the electrical properties. I was involved in building a similar antenna in the mid 60's. Back then, many of us had a CB Radio. The basic design hasn't evolved much but the construction material has. This antenna weighs just about 20 pounds, the sixties version was nearly 45 lbs and all wood.

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The Boom is 63 inches from end to end. I used 60 inches of 1 1/2 inch sch 40 PVC pipe. The pipe is secured to the end hubs with 1/4 x 2 1/2 inch stainless machine thread carriage bolts and nuts. By not cementing these in place, it allowed me to construct each end section one at a time. It also makes any future repair allot easier. The two 5 way hubs that support the spreader arms are also PVC. These came from an on-line greenhouse building supply company.

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With the help of 8 reducers from an on-line hardware company, the hubs will accept 1/2 inch sch 40 PVC pipe. The ? inch PVC pipe sections are 12 inches long (15 inches for CB Band ). A 4-way one-inch slot is cut in one end. These slots allow 1 1/2" stainless hose clamps to secure the 1/2 inch dia by 72 inch solid fiberglass spreader arms. This design makes for easy adjustment of the spreader arms.

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The fiberglass spreader arms were once electric fence posts in a previous life. These too are from an on-line electric fence supply Co. (See source below) On the end of each spreader arm, I attached a 2-inch long by 1-inch diameter section of black nylon rod. I ordered a 3-foot section from an On-Line plastic supply company and cut them to length on my table saw. I drilled a 1/2 inch centered 1-inch deep hole in each. I secured the nylon tips with friction and a dab of hot glue. These tips support the 12 ga. stranded Primary wire that I purchased from a local automotive supply store. The opposite end of each nylon tip has a 1/8-inch dia hole drilled from side to side for passing the wire through. I placed it 1/2 inches from the top of each piece.

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I used the dimensions from an on-line quad calculator to provide the exact length wire needed for the reflector and the driven element. I measured these very precisely but left about 6 inches of extra wire on each end. The wire has a white plastic coating. I used a black marker to mark off each quarter length. I colored 1/2 inches on either side of that mark with a red marker. This made adjustment simple when I slid the fiberglass rods out to their proper position. I secured the wire in place with small nylon pull ties and a dab of hot glue on either side of the nylon tips.

The reflector wire is cut at the beginning of the first red mark and at the end of the last. I striped the coating back 1-inch on each end. I then overlapped and soldered the two ends together.
(A second person here helps to flex the rod to one side until the solder is cool.) With the soldered joint securely inside the nylon tip, the fiberglass rods can be extended to their proper length. The wire should be taut on all four sections. After tightening the hose clamps, this completed the reflector loop.

The Boom mounting plate (shown below) uses two stainless 1 7/8th" exhaust clamps and two 1 1/4" mast clamps. This picture shows a piece of aluminum plate 1/4" X 4" X 12". I drilled and attached the plate to the boom centered and plumbed. The aluminum plate and the stainless clamps came from "That" on-line auction or buy-now web company.
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Moving to the business end of the boom, the supporting structures are exactly the same as the reflector end with only one minor change. The beginning and end of the driven element are attached at either of the horizontal spreader arms. At this tip, I expanded the 1/8th hole to a 3/8th hole. I placed a 2 1/2 by 3/8th inch machine thread nylon retaining bolt here as an attachment point for either end of the wire. I needed a thin machine thread nut so I sawed one in half. After tapping the bolt into place, I was left with one half of the nut on either side of the nylon tip. I secured the nut with a small bit of hot glue. I drilled 1/8th inch holes through the nylon bolt on either side of the nuts parallel to the boom to secure the element wires. Now I threaded the wire through the tips.

I placed the black mark at the center of the nylon tip then carefully held the wire in-place and passed the correct amount of wire through the 1/8 inch hole and secured it in place with a pull tie and hot glue. I repeated this on the opposite side of the tip. I did this to make certain each wire was the same length as the other 2 sections. It only took seconds to do this but it takes a lot of words to describe the process.

After securing the wires with wire ties and hot glue, I was left with 2 short ends. I stripped the covering off each end exposing copper to the black marks. At this point, I slid the last spreader arm out to take up the slack in the wires and tightened the stainless hose clamp.

If you look at the next to last picture above, you will see a small aluminum project box.
I attached an SO 239 at one end and drilled two holes and installed rubber grommets to the other end of the box to protect the feed wires. I also installed one U bolt to attach the box to the spreader arm just below the attachment points.
(Note: An optional balun could be installed here in place of the simple project box.)

I stripped out about 6 inches of coax shield from some spare RG58 cable and divided this in two. I drilled a small hole next to each grommet as attachment points for small ring connectors. I secured these with sheet metal screws. I slid a section of shield down each short feed wire and soldered part of the shield to the ring connectors. I slid a piece of shrink tubing down each wire. I soldered each wire to a feed point and slid the shrink tubing over the joints. I slid the braid up to the beginning of the plastic coating on one of the element wires and secured it with a pull tie. See Feed Point Drawing!

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At this point, I attached my SWR meter and started adjusting the braid exposing more or less of the unshielded portion of the remaining feed wire until I achieved the lowest SWR. I used another pull tie and covered the braids with electrical tape. This completed the antenna.

Either one of the charts below should give you the needed dimensions for the 11Meter CB band or 10 meter dimensions for hams that hold Tech class privileges and above.
I used the first chart below for the 10 meter band.

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One last thing, I had to buy a short piece of clear 1/2" dia. plastic tubing and cut it into 2 inch sections. I slid two pieces onto each of the fiberglass spreaders before inserting them into the 12-inch spreader supports. Seems the 1/2 inch dia. PVC pipe, isn't 1/2 inch inside, its 5/8th".
One of those small problems a person building something from scratch runs into from time to time.

Note: There is an optional balun that might replace the direct connection project box.
It should give acceptable SWR readings on either the 10 or 11 meter version. It uses the same SO 239 52 ohm input and the output uses two thumbscrew connections. The net weight is 3.9 pounds. The weight could be a problem if installed where the project box is connected. Another challenge would be designing a mounting plate with U-bolts to attach it to the Fiberglass spreader. If I decide to upgrade the RF feed, I will do a bit more research before ordering this item. It looks a bit pricy but I also believe "you get what you pay for". This upgrade should improve reception a bit and also refine the signal radiation pattern. N1UUE - 73's

Balun - 2:1, High Power, 1.8 to 30 MHz, Cast Aluminum Gasketed Enclosure - DXE-BAL100-H11-C. I located this item on the following website. DX Engineering.com

"If one person takes a chance and builds one and enjoys the project, it would make my day.
Bob Eastman "
Happy building and 73!
N1UUE Mexico, Maine. (See his website for any updates to this project)
Email Bob for questions: eastcom 1 at gwi.net (remove spaces)

Here are a few links you might use. This is where I ordered some of my parts.
These links may be useful to others.
Some suggested sources for materials:

Greenhouse Megastore PVC 5 way connector

U.S. Plastic Nylon rod

Plumbing Hardware Store.com PVC reducing bushing

Kencove Farm Fence Supplies Fibergalss rods

Ebay 6061-T651 Aluminum Plate, 1/4" x 4" x 12"

Local hardware stores, auto parts stores, etc for hardware

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Quad and then some more Antenna experimenting

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This is my first attempt at making a home brew one element quad. It worked okay going with 102 inches on each leg of the dipole. I worked quite a few stations to the south-east, mostly the Carolinas. Really is nice to have with a vertical so you can get rid of some static. It also helps you work dx long after the others have went to bed. Got some good signal reports for being at only 18 feet off my back deck. I would have to say my home brew dipole at 30 feet or so using rg8x gave greater signal reports. Its kind of interesting at times using either one getting S 10 and 15 reports while they are only giving you a few S units and or your barely picking them up using a IMAX 2000 at 40 plus feet.



It was kind of strange how I ended up finding out that this antenna actually transmits its strongest signals on the side of it. Perhaps I did not use enough wire for the outside.

I next went on to make it 108 inches on each leg and added a rotor.


I now noticed it isnt giving greatest gain on edge of the cubicle quad now. It appears to be getting more static but this could be due to the rain we have been getting. I added a match section using about 9 feet of 75 ohm rg59u with the 1 to 1 Balun in line as well.

The swr seems to have come down well under the 1.7 I was getting with the previous attempt. I am using 14 gauge stranded wire btw. The used 50 dollar Gemini rotor appears to handle the load with no problems.



Over the last weekend using this antenna here near Chicago I was able to work my first Polish contact and Greenland again.



Great 5 by 7 and S 9 all weekend into Europe, including Scotland, U.K., Austria and Netherlands.

The last time I worked Greenland I was using another home brew of my own I call the Tomahawk Antenna, aka the Tiger Shark (still under top secret status)



The interesting part was that It has the gain of my full wave Bamby using only 3 mobile antennas. 2 5.5 foot fibreglass Francis sticks and one 90 inch Half Breed.

The rejection was about 1 db not as good as the full wave Bamby Quad.

Well there you have my last 3 months of antenna experimenting. Would love to here about yours.

Oh I forgot to mention the V mobile antenna that works really well.

( I worked Germany with it last week while driving into work one morning and have made several European contacts including the Caribbean and Division 3)


If you doubt how well any of these designs I have been using I have audio feeds of the contacts giving me 5 by 9 reports, sounding like a local, and my favourite from Owen in Jamaica. "Your like a Bull down here in Jamaica".

Here are some closing photos of what this Legendary DX hunter has been up to

I think this one we will call the "Buddy Basher Pole"


,,,,,hi hi :)



Best Regards, and good DX to you



Scott W A 1 Division 2 Great Lakes Region
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Re: 2 Elements Quad

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Hi Scott

Well it seems you were quite busy the last few weeks.
TNX for your report.

Best 73s

Mike
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Re: 2 Elements Quad

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Hi Mike,

Well this actually has been over the past 4 weeks I would have to say when looking back. Last night when I got home from work the Quad swr is sky high. We have had alot of rain. There is one connection at the feed point that has not been soldered yet. I hope its not my Balun and just that connection. Will post update when I decide what to do next and the outcome of it. In looking up over my roof where I wanted to move it I am now thinking it may be too large to place there.

Regards,

Scott WA1 - Great Lakes Region
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Re: 2 Elements Quad

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Thanks for sharing Scott, Looking good ,

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Re: 2 Elements Quad

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Fine Business! looks like you have had plenty of antenna fun.. Having lost 11m 3ele yagi in the storms that have battered Scotland I have been looking at having a bash with a 2ele Quad.. Would you have any idea if the wind loading factor of the 2ele quad would be greater or less than 3ele yagi wind loading?? My QTH is 700ft up the North side of the Southern Uplands of Scotland and we are exposed to incoming WX.. Materials are ready to go for new mast but wondering if 2ele quad is going to catch more or less wind load than the 3ele before I shell out for the materials.. Keep up the good work, 73 de Hairy Paul 108TM303,108PK303,108HS5625
The more you know the more there is to learn.
73 de Hairy Paul 108TM303, 108PK303, 108HS5625
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